tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post2231848037850281541..comments2023-03-22T08:55:17.747-07:00Comments on Coffee and Kate: Parents with Prams Car SpacesKatehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06308591087937874068noreply@blogger.comBlogger59125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-89430588236487051022011-12-15T14:16:26.743-08:002011-12-15T14:16:26.743-08:00Hey Kate,
I was told about your blog and have just...Hey Kate,<br />I was told about your blog and have just killed myself laughing at all the comments.<br />Kylie: People like you should not breed.... Kate do not take this seriously.. We need people like you breeding to raise the national IQ level average, It helps make up for people like Kylie that have helped lower it!<br />Guy: I loved it, well done.<br />Traci Miller: you are so correct it is NEED for disabled parking.<br />It is a luxury, pwp parking. Not a need contrary to the belief of all those precious mothers.<br /><br />OMG, I have just realised all those negative mothers view having children as a disease.. Listen to all those symptoms, tired, stressed, spewed on, shit on. An inability to walk distances, park cars or do anything without the help of a man, nanny or benefits relating to children..<br /><br />I never consider myself a super parent, Those titles are reserved for my mother and grandmother.The people that really raised children without the assitance of dvds to sit children infront of so they could facebook and stereotype people.<br />I have managed to raise 2 children, with a husband that works away. Run a house, a business, owner build a house, gather groceries, use a lawn mower, and lead a fullfilling life without the assistance of facebook! Oh I have one of those large 4WDs but mine is quite unique.. It has been off road! <br />Keep it up Kate.. By the way you would make an awesome parent if ever you choose to become one, I am sure your children would be well informed self relient good people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-48468546782587669072011-12-06T01:12:03.644-08:002011-12-06T01:12:03.644-08:00Hmm, funny you mention it 'A Mum!'. If I h...Hmm, funny you mention it 'A Mum!'. If I have all this time to write my opinion because I don't have kids, then why do so many mothers have all this time to comment on it? <br /><br />I also like how you assume that I'm bitter and lonely without kids. Try young, free and loving life with a great group of family and friends. Enough said.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308591087937874068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-73267211146553106932011-12-05T01:09:45.878-08:002011-12-05T01:09:45.878-08:00You say that if we don't like what you have to...You say that if we don't like what you have to say in your blog, than not to read it. Well Kate, if you are going to put your opinion, publicly, on a blog, then don't expect people to all appreciate your opinion or agree with it. You seem like you have alot of time to poke fun and bag out parents and families, which makes sense, as you aren't a mother yourself, you obviously haven't found the joy children bring and are putting your stupid opinions and negative, nasty attitude all over the net for people to read. Make you feel a bit more special now??? Stupid. Enjoy being bitter and lonely sweetheart!A Mum!noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-86710569044385799922011-12-04T15:32:02.388-08:002011-12-04T15:32:02.388-08:00LOL! I LOL'd so hard at MATTHEW whinging about...LOL! I LOL'd so hard at MATTHEW whinging about everyone's grammar and then he himself says THERE instead of THEIR. DOOFUS!<br /><br />Also just so you know Kate I didn't see the humour in your post?<br />Just seemed like you were having a dig for fun.Tatinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-20462944044503200772011-12-03T18:53:31.613-08:002011-12-03T18:53:31.613-08:00Well said another KateWell said another KateKristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502773348649295602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-80723598491216179902011-12-03T18:32:17.585-08:002011-12-03T18:32:17.585-08:00I was on vacation recently. One evening at the res...I was on vacation recently. One evening at the resort there was a family having dinner. Their 2 children were running circles around their table the entire time. Disruptive enough until the boy fell, smashed his nose, screamed, had to have all the staff come take care of him and managament make amends to the parents. How relaxing.<br />The very next morning, in the same dining room, I observed a mother with her young daughter (3ish). The daughter sat straight in her seat, napkin folded in her lap, used her dining utensils, even waited in that perfect position while her mother went to the buffet line. Mother and daughter were smiling the whole time.<br />Which example makes me want to have children and enjoy having an extended family?<br /><br />I am rather tired of people bemoaning how hard their life is. Everyone has problems and choices. Children have become so indulged and allowed to "just be" that it causes more harm than realized. I'm sure it is moreso a few making a bad name for others, as can be seen in many other areas (teenagers, pet owners, etc). But really? How about we say "oh cool, a parking space" instead of "how dare you it is my right and need!". <br />Does anyone else not remember station wagons with rear facing third row seats?? I would say those were more dangerous than a parking lot. Maybe parents just don't want to spend the time responsibily training their kids to listen, wait, look and hold their hand while in the lot...too bad. Well trained kids are a joy to be around.another katenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-85178951333235881502011-12-03T05:11:41.427-08:002011-12-03T05:11:41.427-08:00And there you have it. Thank you Traci for remindi...And there you have it. Thank you Traci for reminding everyone what Kate's post was all about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-7955445256096275252011-12-03T02:31:30.141-08:002011-12-03T02:31:30.141-08:00Hm. Seems to me that when I was a kid, we were fin...Hm. Seems to me that when I was a kid, we were fine to get in and out of the shopping center without needing special parking spots. Even my grandparents thought those special spots were stupid and unnecessary. The handicapped and elderly need special spots, that's a NEED. Those who have babies and strollers do not NEED them, they just want them. Not the same thing.Red Charadehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00129986651555541335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-85115277772045679522011-12-02T23:23:13.720-08:002011-12-02T23:23:13.720-08:00Hey Guy. Just came back from Charlestown Square. Y...Hey Guy. Just came back from Charlestown Square. You were right.......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-69649851488156294962011-12-02T23:19:13.624-08:002011-12-02T23:19:13.624-08:00Great post, Kate!
I prefer Senior and Handicapp...Great post, Kate! <br /><br />I prefer Senior and Handicapped Parking (the ones who REALLY need Handicapped Parking...most people who use it don't need the ramps...think about it) over stork parking any day of the week. It's no wonder kids are little tubbies these days. >:DJuniper Jupiterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02263997713033829954noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-20173422205592202862011-12-02T21:26:53.473-08:002011-12-02T21:26:53.473-08:00I agree completely with your post, Kate and couldn...I agree completely with your post, Kate and couldn't have said it better myself! And since you have already managed to piss in a bunch of people's Cheerios, I'll add some more fuel to the fire and get the super moms even more fired up. (If you feel like I'm hijacking your blog, please feel free to remove my post)<br /><br />1) Sit down restaurants need to have a no children under 10 policy after, say, 8pm. Few things irritate me more than having some toddler throwing food, screaming, wandering around in the aisles, or standing up in the booth and pulling my hair with their applesauce encrusted hands. I don't have the opportunity to go out on a date with my husband that often and the last thing I want is your precious little offspring interrupting my dinner and putting me in a bad mood. Realistically young children really shouldn't be up past 8pm anyway.<br /><br />2) I think family friendly seating at the back of airplanes is a profound idea that needs implemented on all flights longer than two hours in duration post haste. Flying is pretty much a miserable experience all the way around for anyone, but can be exponentially more miserable if you happen to be unfortunate enough to sit within several rows of a screaming infant (yes, I realize that sometimes there isn't a whole lot that parents can do about this) or are misfortunate enough to get to sit in front of a toddler who gets entertainment out of kicking your seat nonstop for the duration of the flight. And while I'm on the topic of children and flying, I would like to point out that the only appropriate place to change a diaper is on the diaper changing station provided in the restroom. It's bad enough that you have to smell your child's diaper, but please, for the love of God, don't inflict that misery on the rest of the cabin.<br /><br />For the record, no I am not a parent. And the longer I am not a parent the more things I add to my list of things I'll never do when I'm a parent. I'm also confident enough in my own opinion to to not hide behind an "anonymous" tag. :)<br /><br />Hope everyone has a fabulous day!Kinseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07829483701697000601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-38526496811191659892011-12-02T20:43:36.782-08:002011-12-02T20:43:36.782-08:00Fair enough Heidi, there are a lot of factors that...Fair enough Heidi, there are a lot of factors that can be taken into consideration, however this post was written for my regular followers of this blog. My chosen audience didn't originally include the 'Fairness to Mother's Society' and it would have been rather rude to intentionally send this to people to deliberately razz them up. <br /><br />This was shared beyond it's usual scope. I realise how easily things can be spread over the net and I have made it so anyone can post a reply on this blog. I like to hear what people have to say, but that means that I'm open to other people's take on the situation, unlike many of the commenters on here. The name-calling and belittling comments are highly disappointing and represent a a group of people that I want no association with. <br /><br />Ironically, many of the comments on here actually prove my point that some parents see the parks as an entitlement. It's a nice gesture ONLY, like courtesy seats for bored husbands in the shopping centres. It wouldn't be the end of the world if they weren't there. Just relax people.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308591087937874068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-54026894582270929272011-12-02T19:36:38.724-08:002011-12-02T19:36:38.724-08:00parking inspector,
i only have 2 kids myself so i...parking inspector, <br />i only have 2 kids myself so i don't have a big car myself, and i do care about the environment. i am one of the few who use cloth nappies instead of disposables. my point was that if you have 3 kids who are required to be in carseats/booster seats by law (i don't make the law so you can't blame me on that one, i know i did fine without being in a carseat till 7), then the cars that fit them in are generally speaking bigger cars, (wider) and so the parents with prams car space makes it possible to be able to park somewhere where you can actually get the kids out of the car. i was just throwing another perspective on the matter in regards to parking spaces being wide enough and why that might be the case. <br /><br />there are so many factors to take into consideration that the original post seems to have not considered when saying how bad it is that parents with prams are privileged to get a car space of their own. <br /><br />As for online shopping, some of us actually like to be human and social and leave the house. and also not everyone has online shopping available to them. for instance i live 45km from my shopping center who don't deliver. if i leave the kids behind i then have to find a babysitter. i had kids to be mum, to be part of their lives, to do things with them, not to leave them behind all the time.Heidinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-62114555892409764432011-12-02T17:02:34.987-08:002011-12-02T17:02:34.987-08:00Tash you give me hope that not all mothers today a...Tash you give me hope that not all mothers today are brain dead like a lot of the "super mums" who have posted on here. Parenting has gotten easier over the years not harder so stop your bitching.Kristenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06502773348649295602noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-50488440894889718272011-12-02T15:29:29.410-08:002011-12-02T15:29:29.410-08:00Ok guys, please actually read the post fully befor...Ok guys, please actually read the post fully before commenting on things that I do not say. I do not say that my tax dollars go into these car parks, I never mention childcare and I have no problem with special parks for the disabled or the elderly. I acknowledged that the car spaces are a nice gesture and even said in a reply that I make a point of not parking in them. <br /><br />If/when I do have children I will not expect any sort of special treatment. And I seriously doubt that my opposition to these car parks will make me a terrible parent. If can't look at this post and say "Haha, yeah it is pretty silly that we worry about special car parks while women in Africa are having trouble keeping their family alive" then you are taking life too seriously, and I feel sorry for you.Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308591087937874068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-70834135982066914012011-12-02T14:52:39.441-08:002011-12-02T14:52:39.441-08:00I had a giggle because my verification word when I...I had a giggle because my verification word when I posted my previous comment was "karma". If you either have children one day, or suffer from something that even temporarily affects your mobility (note: I am not wishing this upon you in any way, I hope it does not happen), balance or similar, perhaps this post will come back to bite you in the bum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-77497232350849922162011-12-02T14:49:56.953-08:002011-12-02T14:49:56.953-08:00Firstly, I have never used a parents with prams pa...Firstly, I have never used a parents with prams parking spot in 9 years of being a parent. Partly because I don't like prams and mostly used a carrier, partly because I don't drive so only had a car with me if my partner was there too.<br />Secondly, there are no more of the parents with prams spots now than there were 9 years ago when my eldest was born.<br />Thirdly, the point of the spots is not so much that parents can't walk, it's the extra width that is handy to get young kids out of a 5-point harness carseat and into a pram without either contorting oneself into painful positions or bumping the adjacent cars.<br />Fourthly, of course they are not necessary, but what harm does it do to show a little courtesy to people? Just to acknowledge that yes, having babies and young children and getting them in and out of a car is difficult. Why do the spots make so much of a difference to you, have YOUR legs fallen off?<br />I bet you are one of those people I struggled with for years who doesn't stand up for pregnant women or people with prams/babies in the priority seats on buses and trains. By the time my youngest was born I would just point at the sign and politely but directly ask them to move.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-8994988610225110092011-12-02T06:18:08.213-08:002011-12-02T06:18:08.213-08:00wow... mothers of the world unite indeed! and the ...wow... mothers of the world unite indeed! and the majority of them have terrible spelling and grammar!<br /><br />Firstly, awesome blog Kate! This is one of my favourite topics lately as well.<br /><br />Im not sure which "super-mum" said it above in there comments (probably one of the anonymous gutless wonders who don't wish to be named) but at no point ever have we said that you should not come to the shops to get your groceries. BUT if it is that big an ordeal with the prams and the trolleys and the "dangerous car-park" environment, not to mention looking after your child as well! wouldn't it be easier to just forgo the whole ordeal and I don't know, do your shopping on the internet? Coles and Woolworths both allow you to shop online! Woolworths even have an app for that! Now yes that costs more with delivery and all that rubbish... but if going to the shops is so stressful doesn't the extra money make it almost worth having your groceries delivered to your door? Just be sure to have a designated park reserved for the delivery person (its only fair)!<br /><br />As for the subject of needing a giant SUV to carry your kids around in... seriously? wake up to yourself. My parents have never owned anything bigger than an old sigma station wagon!<br />Now they do the rounds with their grand kids in a Mazda3, this includes occasionally taking them to the shops where they don't use parents with pram parking! But how can they manage in a vehicle that doesn't have 7 seats and 4 wheel drive and a bull bar? I've never heard them complain so it cant be too hard. Now some people might want to argue the safety aspect of driving their kids around in a Prado or similar sized vehicle. And yes I will admit you and your children will be safer should you have an accident with another vehicle, however the person in the other car doesn't stand a chance! Now, I don't remember who I heard say this, but I heard this person talking about buying his partner a new vehicle to drive her and their children around in. He ultimately decided to get her a large 4 wheel drive. When asked why, he replied that they were planning on having more kids and would need a large car etc. He then went on to say that she wasn't the best driver so he wanted them to be safe! Just because a car is big doesn't make it safe. A quick browse through the ANCAP safety website showed me that there are more 5 start small cars then there are large SUV's.<br /><br />I'll leave it at that for now, although there is plenty more I could say on the subject.Matthewnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-75868084182920694982011-12-02T05:38:11.267-08:002011-12-02T05:38:11.267-08:00Thanks for your voice of reason, Tash. It's ni...Thanks for your voice of reason, Tash. It's nice to know there are some mothers out there who don't take themselves too seriously. <br /><br />Maybe you should head back in a week or so to see the post on the My Family stickers. Should be a good one :)Katehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308591087937874068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-29686180082182937972011-12-02T05:29:13.837-08:002011-12-02T05:29:13.837-08:00Wow - I was provided a link to this blog via Faceb...Wow - I was provided a link to this blog via Facebook and I know (for whatever strange reason) it is such a controversial topic.<br /><br />Firstly I drive a 2 door 1995 Nissan Micra and quite easily fit my daughter's very large carseat and there is still plenty of room for a second capsule/seat for when we have our second child - so the argument that hints that parents need these huge cars to fit their kids in safely is lost on me because I do just fine in my tiny wee car.<br /><br />I utilise the Parents with Prams parks if they are available because I do like the extra width to be able to put my daughter in the car but if there are none there I do not stress over it and get huffy - I drive around and usually try and find a further away park where the chances of someone parking too close to me are slim and I hold my daughter's hand and we walk - when she was not a walker I......wait for it.....strapped her into her pram and pushed her through the car park! I really do not think it is as hard as some people have made it out to be here.<br /><br />If I had to do a big shop I ordered online, went with my husband, left her at home with her daddy so I could have 5 mins to myself or sat her in the trolley - I found ways around all the arguments that people are making towards Kate's views.<br /><br />I just think that this particular topic does not need to have so much hostility surrounding it - deal with the fact people without kids park in them and lose some anger - life is too short to be so angry about things that are so trivial.<br /><br />Oh and Kate - my family stickers...do not get me started on those. I have 3 words - I HATE THEM!!!! :-)Tashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-37655323908803311532011-12-02T05:09:22.386-08:002011-12-02T05:09:22.386-08:00You mean I should actually have get a babysitter t...You mean I should actually have get a babysitter to go out or watch my child while in the parking lot? I'm far to important to do either of those things now that I'm a mommy. Since giving birth to my little bundle of joy every other person on the planet needs to stop what their doing and make my personal choice easier on me(with the exception of other mommy's of course). While I'm at it I don't care that I'm ruining your dinner out by letting my kid scream and run around this restaurant because again the world is all about me. Oh get over that my kid is sick and sneezing all over you, I mean think of how SHE feels with her little wittle cold. I mean even now when I should be spending time with my little one I'm online fighting meanie people who don't understand how hard it is being a mom today, it's like living in the 1800 or something.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-52664861635821307012011-12-02T05:01:49.008-08:002011-12-02T05:01:49.008-08:00I was born in 1986. From when I was the ages of ze...I was born in 1986. From when I was the ages of zero (0) to five (5) my parents owned a very early 80's two door Toyota Celica, in an age where Parent Parking didn't exist. <br /><br />Somehow (now this may shock you all), I was not hurt in any way, shape or form on any trip into the dangerous war-zone know as the shopping centre car park.<br /><br />I'm quite sure, with the vast improvements to technology that have happened over the the years, that today's cars of the same or similar size are quite capable of transporting a child to and from a shopping centre without incident and with groceries intact.<br /><br />Perhaps if you need a Toyota Tarago to complete this task then maybe having 3 kids in 4 years wasn't such a great idea. Or maybe parents just aren't as good anymore...Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02946390828962274530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-59490006490723045312011-12-02T04:40:45.638-08:002011-12-02T04:40:45.638-08:00Heidi,
In response to my post, you wrote "Tr...Heidi,<br /><br />In response to my post, you wrote "Try finding a car smaller that fits the carseats in them which are required by law. Not so easy is it."<br /><br />Are you trying to convince all of us living in the real world that the only cars available to super-mums are super-large SUV'S that are totally unnecessary in the urban environment? If so, Über-fail on your behalf. <br /><br />Try again.Parking Inspectornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-594975382485779612011-12-02T04:34:03.833-08:002011-12-02T04:34:03.833-08:00Kate, forget about PWP spaces... we need PWP shopp...Kate, forget about PWP spaces... we need PWP shopping centres!<br /><br />Then all of us single and/or childless people can shop in peace and quiet, with no screaming kids and with no man or woman above anyone else in the shopping centre car park hierarchy.<br /><br />Then parents can have a shopping centre full of wide spaced parks for their Range Rovers and all the parent rooms they could imagine to clean up their runny-nosed dribbling kids, with no inconsiderate childless people making life ever so hard for them!<br /><br />Wouldn't it be great?<br /><br />** In case you couldn't tell, my comment - much like Kate's blog - was made with tongue planted firmly in cheek. High horses and computers don't mix, so I suggest that you either get off one, or both! **Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02946390828962274530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3841545578509533515.post-32118852550015696472011-12-02T04:31:22.131-08:002011-12-02T04:31:22.131-08:00I'm a mum and I love using those spots.. But I...I'm a mum and I love using those spots.. But I can also see your point of view (about the car parks, not the childcare) and found myself giggling at your post.. I didn't realise parking spots would get such a response!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com